Padanaram - Demerest Lloyd 2008

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Padanaram - Demerest Lloyd 2008

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Greetings All,

Thinking about Padanaram to Demerest Lloyd for this Saturday?

9:30 AM Put In = Arrive by 9:00 AM

Location is just off Padanaram road onto Smith Neck, on the side of the road.

http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Padanaram+bridge+South+Dartmouth+MA&sll=41.581424,-70.909023&sspn=0.091168,0.149689&ie=UTF8&z=16&iwloc=addr

The long range forecast is for light winds out of the east........ Sorry no 25 mph plus like last year :)

Please post if you're planning to attend.

While this is looks like a relatively easy paddle, it is approximately 16 miles round trip. http://www.gmap-pedometer.com/?r=2020133
As we saw last year this area can get textured, so everyone needs to have practiced self and assisted rescue skills and all the other requisite safety gear etc. You all know the drill...... please come properly prepared.

Anyone interested in paddling, please post your plans to attend before Saturday.

Cheers,

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AYE!
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100% AYE
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I'm in.
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I'm planning to be there.
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Aye, Aye!!
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Aye, looking forward to a real trip. :)
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Re: Padanaram - Demerest Lloyd 2008

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kayakerjnj wrote:
The long range forecast is for light winds out of the east........ Sorry no 25 mph plus like last year :)



Are you looking at the same long range forecast that I am?
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/data/Forecasts ... .KBOX.html

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N WINDS 10 TO 15 KT...BECOMING E WITH GUSTS UP TO 25 KT.
SEAS 1 FOOT OR LESS...THEN AROUND 2 FT. A CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND
TSTMS. PATCHY FOG. VSBY 1 NM OR LESS.
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Re: Padanaram - Demerest Lloyd 2008

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cgr wrote:
kayakerjnj wrote:
The long range forecast is for light winds out of the east........ Sorry no 25 mph plus like last year :)



Are you looking at the same long range forecast that I am?
http://www.ndbc.noaa.gov/data/Forecasts ... .KBOX.html

SAT
N WINDS 10 TO 15 KT...BECOMING E WITH GUSTS UP TO 25 KT.
SEAS 1 FOOT OR LESS...THEN AROUND 2 FT. A CHANCE OF SHOWERS AND
TSTMS. PATCHY FOG. VSBY 1 NM OR LESS.


I was wondering the same thing. The forecast I'm looking at is closer to yours. I think he's trying to pull the old bait and switch.
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It's a Christmas Miracle!

We are going to have texture after all :lol:
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What did we deal with out there last year?
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I will see how I do Thurs. night, 16 mi. might be more that I can chew on with my sh*t back. OOPS! can I say that in this forum. I have turned into a potty mouth lately, not getting in my usual paddle time :evil:
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We had our share of wind and following seas, and some good strong paddling into them too.

Ken, I'd be happy to car pool with you and take some of the load off the back.

See you tomorrow evening.

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Your shwell. Ken
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We had our share of wind and following seas, and some good strong paddling into them too.



Conditions on last years excursion seemed more energetic than what's forecast for Saturday. That was some trip between the two points. But...:?
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I'm a "GO"!!!
I'll recheck weather/forecast the morning of... as long as it's no worse than last years paddle... count me in!!!
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Actually...the conditions made last year's trip a hoot. 8)
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I suspect there will be hooting this year too!

If Saturday comes close to repeating last year, it should be a great time.

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I'm in. See you Saturday.
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Synopsis For Massachusetts And Rhode Island Coastal Waters

High pressure builds over the waters early today...then makes way for a weak cold front to slide south into southern New England tonight. This will bring showers and thunderstorms to the waters late today and tonight. The front will remain stalled over the coastal waters Saturday night or Sunday...then lift north on Monday.

Saturday...
NW winds 5 to 10 kt...becoming NE in the late morning and afternoon. Seas around 2 ft. Patchy fog. A chance of showers and tstms in the morning. Vsby 1 nm or less.
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Forecast is for tamer conditions than last year...but it still looks like we're in for some rock & roll. (Mostly rock in my case. :P)

8)
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A picture taken by Ron from last year.
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Todd wrote:A picture taken by Ron from last year.
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Does anyone else not see an image or is it just me??
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Nelson:

I see the image twice now. Once in the original post and a second time when you quoted it.

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Just you.

I can see it. A big talking rabbit. 8)

Seriously, the image works on my browser.
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Strange. I can see all of the photos in the photo gallery but I can't see the embedded images any more. I think is is from work but it doesn't make sense.
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Anyone hear from Ron regarding the trailer for a group commute from Plymouth? :?:
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Be at Applebees parking lot between 8 and 8:15

Applebees is under construction so park in the next obvious spot.
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Thanks for posting this Jordan! It was hot and it was flat; but to get thrown off of 2 beaches in one day must be a record.

I got home and it was about 10 degrees cooler at home than in Dartmouth.
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Thanks Jordan! It was a nice paddle. Next time maybe the bumps will be back,next time I wont were a frickin layer of neoprene. I got a bit shweaty. Shlater, Ken
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Thanks Jordan, you picked the right day and place as far as I'm concerned. Sorry to the rest of you that there wasn't more exciting "texture" out there for you, but I was very happy the water was fairly calm. I was thoroughly fried and exhausted by the time I got home - still tired after a 3 hour nap. I can't imagine how tiring that trip must have been last year.
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Thanks to all!

It was another good day on the water.

I do think we'll have to start researching and find out what exactly our rights are to land on a state beach or park. It does seem inconceivable that we have legal access to these areas.

Great day, great company, and some gooooooood ice cream for PPR!

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I still think we should have kidnapped the cow.
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Is it common that you are thrown off the beaches?
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It's only because Mass laws are ridiculous regarding 'beach use'.
Staying below the "Low Tide" line makes it difficult to stretch your legs on dry land for lunch!
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Hey Mike, didn't you have some binoculars in all that gear you had? That "cow" was too far away to see very well with the naked eye but I took a bunch of shots with my camera zoomed to the max. Most shots came out fuzzy, but a couple were clear enough to see that the cow had horns on it!

I tried to attach a picture, but I don't know how to upload it.
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Cow...bull...longhorn...water buffalo. Whatever it was we should have taken it for a swim down to the state park and then watched the fun from offshore. The regulations are pretty bollixed up....

Things to know before you go...
The park is generally open from mid may to mid September. Park hours in season are 10 am to 6 pm weekdays and 8 am to 6pm weekends and holidays. There are absolutely no pets allowed on the beach at any time. Kite surfing, skim boards, boogey boards or flotation devices of any type are not allowed. Powerboats and Jet Ski's are not allowed to land on the beach. Shell fishermen must have a valid Dartmouth shellfish license. It is very helpful if youth groups call ahead of time to schedule visits.


Pets are prohibited...but they don't mention livestock. 8) Jet skis and powerboats are prohibited...but kayaking is actually listed as one of the attractions. I love this state.

By the way, it looks like the second beach from which we were tossed is actually known, ironically, as Barney's Joy. A happy, welcoming place indeed.
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Boy, I wish I knew that info when we landed there. I would have made that life guard a little more miserable before we left.
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Birdseye wrote:Boy, I wish I knew that info when we landed there. I would have made that life guard a little more miserable before we left.


I parked and launched from there last year several times without hassle. But I did park at the smaller lot which I think is where he was telling us to go.

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Getting thrown off beaches

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It seems like we've been over "getting thrown off beaches" before :oops: Mass Law is quite clear - you can access any point (from the water) on the shore below the "mean" high water mark for hunting, fishing, fowling or "navigational" purposes :D

Fairly interpreted if you are kayaking and need to land for a rest or repair, any shoreline below the high tide line is open to you (you just need to stay below the high tide line and not linger for too long) 8) Obviously, when landing at beaches with defined swimming (or surfing) areas. you should try to avoid landing in the midst of areas that are clearly reserved for these and other similar recreational uses - lifeguards are likely to perceive kayaks as a potential danger to swimmers and surfers.

Rights aside, land owners, local law enforcement, park rangers, and lifeguards seem to be woefully ignorant of the law :x

Perhaps you should recruit a lawyer to paddle with you, or at least pack a copy of the appropriate section of the Mass General Laws :lol:
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"Perhaps you should recruit a lawyer to paddle with you, or at least pack a copy of the appropriate section of the Mass General Laws."



Hmmm....Perhaps we need a lawyer who has actually researched the question and figured out how much legal ammo could be fired at 20-year olds working summer jobs on small town beaches in southeastern Massachusetts and at waterfront property owners in very expensive neighborhoods before a 911 would bring the local police, possibly with boats. We definitely need a strategy.

OK I'M ON IT!

Has anyone already looked at this question? There must be something in the archives. No need to reinvent the wheel.
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